When you google search ‘church ruins’ it’s amazing how many
images come up: Churches that have for some reason or another simply stopped
being centres of vibrant worship and faith communities.
In the forward to Donald Posterski’s book “Friendship: A
Window To Ministry with Youth” there is a disturbing but also encouraging
summary of Church history. It says, “There are times when Christianity has
become little more than a gerontological Curiosity” … by the way gerontological
means the study of the aged. Times when
the flames of the faith have seemed to flicker and almost become extinguished…
But these are often followed by vibrant times of renewal and revitalisation:
Fresh direction, fresh vision fresh generations, as the Spirit once again fans the church into a
bright light on a hill… the Spirit rekindles a passion for Jesus and a desire
to live out the gospel.
There is a wonderful
book, with a tile that sounds like an Irish joke called “The day the Irish
saved civilization” which documents the way in which Irish monks and Celtic Christianity,
preserved literacy and through their communities of faith, re Christianised the
whole of Europe in the so called dark ages.
At a time when the church in western Europe was waning, becoming simply
the state religion, Francis of Assisi started a movement that was based on a
radical adherence to the sermon on the mount, which it was said he read twice
daily…The reformation at the start of the enlightenment…The rise of Methodism
and the Salvation Army in response to the new urban environments of the industrial
revolution…The welsh revival… The growth of new denominations in our own age…new
centres of Christian vibrancy in the developing world…The call on the church
now not for a reformation but a reformission… to take up the challenge of being
and bringing the gospel to our post Christian world.
Well how does this connect with our reading this morning
from Obadiah? You will remember that we
mentioned last week that while it is an oracle against Edom, who had been
involved in the suffering of Judah as Jerusalem had been destroyed and the
people taken into exile by the Babylonians, which David Baker sums up by saying
they “Acted like the cowardly bully who is antagonistic only when there is
overwhelming power displayed against the weaker victim.” But at its heart the
book of Obadiah is encouragement for the exiles that God will restore them;
that they will return to Jerusalem. Despite the fact they seem defeated and
scattered and their enemies gloat over them, this is not the way it will
remain. God is with them and for them. It is encouragement for us as well that
God’s love and God’s mercy is what we can depend on in times of trouble,
suffering, change and seasons of decline and struggle both individually and as
the Church. AS I read Obadiah I couldn’t help but have Paul’s words in 2
Corinthians ringing in my ear. “My Grace is sufficient for you”. Struggling
with a thorn in his side, that tormented him, and hearing a no from God about
healing, he is encouraged and given hope in the fact that God’s answer is “My
Grace is Sufficient for you”. God’s people in exile, shocked and discouraged
are to have the same hope, “My Grace is sufficient for you.” It is the same
hope and trust that we can have as well in all the ebbs and flows and ups and
downs that we face… “My Grace is sufficient for you.”
This encouragement for God’s people then and now is based on
the very nature of God.
I
n most of the English translations of the bible the name
YHWH is written as LORD in capitals and we can easily miss the importance of
the name being used. YHWH is the name for God used in Obabdiah, YHWH was the
name God chose to reveal himself by to Moses at the burning bush… It is the “I
am who I am”. It is the God who sees and hears the plight of his people, who
cares and who acts for their redemption. It is the God of relationship, the God
who promised land and blessings and descendants to Abraham, who chose Jacob to
be the son of blessing, not the stronger Esau, very relevant to the book of
Obadiah, who was with and kept Joseph and prospered him even in the face of
jealousy and wrong imprisonment, and through that was able to provide for Jacob
and his family. The name Joseph is used to signify in Obadiah that God will
bring all his people back from exile. It
is YWHW who bought the people of Israel out of Egypt and made a covenant with
them, that they would be his people and he would be their God. Who kept his covenant even when Israel did
not keep hers, so much of the books we call history in the Hebrew Scriptures are
there to show that YWHW was justified to send his people out of the land he had
promised them. In Obadiah they are encouragement that YHWH can be trusted to
restore them again. Just as YWHW was their deliverer back then he will keep his
promise again… “On Mt Zion will be deliverance, it will be Holy”.
It is encouragement based on the sovereignty of God. Not
only is the one speaking to them YWHW but YWHW is the Sovereign Lord. In the
opening verse of Obadiah we see that it is the sovereign Lord YWHW who calls
the nations together to hear and carry out the judgment on Edom. With
Jerusalem in ruins and the Babylonian empire in ascendancy you would think it
was Nebuchadnezzar who could call nations together, or at least the Babylonian
god’s but here in this small oracle, hope comes from the fact that God is
sovereign over the nations. God is in control; nations come and go at his
command. God is able to work out his plans and purposes for the good of his
people.
There is also the sense that God is the God of the ages.
History and time are in his hands. Israel and all humans are very temporal
beings, we are very much caught up in time and place, situations and
circumstances. Researchers wrestling
with ecological issues have identified this as a factor in why there is
resistance to change in the face of issues such as climate change and
pollution. It is hard for us to think beyond our needs now to modify our
behaviour for the sake of our children and grandchildren, and the children and
grandchildren of other nations?
But God is the God of the ages, not limited to the here and
now but looks from an eternal perspective. It’s interesting that when YWHW
disciplined his people, the foreign policy of the Assyrians and Babylonians,
was exile. You stopped national identity rising and revolts by removing people
from their lands. But then when it was time for Israel to return the Medes and
Persians came to power, whose foreign policy was to return people to their
homelands and help them prosper as the empire needed tribute and peace and
wealth came from prospering settled and happy people.
But also YHWH being the God of the ages means Obadiah looks
forward to a greater fulfilment. That not only would Jerusalem and Israel be restored
but that it would be a place where God’s deliverance and presence was manifest.
It would be where God’s Kingdom would be established, and we look back from
beyond the cross and the resurrection to see that deliverance ultimately comes
in Christ. That promise of relationship and being a blessing to all nations
that God made with Abraham coming true in Christ. it will have its ultimate consummation in the return of Christ.
So what does this mean for us today?
On a personal level, we need to hear like Paul did… “my
grace is sufficient for you” that the sovereign God who through Christ’s life
death and resurrection is in
relationship with us, who has called us to be his people, is able to keep us
and work out his plans for our good not for our harm. Even in times when the evidence
is all to the contrary, Even when the answer is no, or the heavens feel closed against us. Last year when we looked at some of the
laments in the Old Testament we saw the process of faith growing through times
of orientation, when it is all as it should be, of prosperity and answers to
prayer and stability, and times of disorientation when it seems as if we’ve
gone out to the beach and ended up being dumped again and again by waves, then
times of re-orientation with a deepening trust in God and a deeper and more
intimate awareness of his presence and sufficiency. Paul comes to that point of
reorientation and realises that because of his limitations he is dependent on
God’s grace and God grace is sufficient”.
In Paul’s weakness God’s strength is made manifest. In our weaknesses
God’s strength is made manifest.
On a Church level. The hope for Judah was the same, that
God’s grace was sufficient for them. God could be trusted to keep his promises
even when their nearest neighbours partied on their holy mountain celebrating
their defeat and demise. In fact there is a play on words in this second half
of Obadiah, where the idea of drinking the cup in celebration also coincides
with drinking the cup of judgement as well for Edom, and the end it is Judah
and Israel who celebrates on Mt Zion. For the people in exile it meant that
they should listen to the words of Jeremiah 29:7 and while they were in exile
seek the peace and prosperity of the city where God had placed them. Get on
with being God’s people in the place where they now found themselves, in the
sure knowledge that God’s grace was sufficient for them”: Trusting that God
would bring renewal and restoration and return.
We find ourselves as a church in the same situation, in a
new reality called to serve and love the city around us and in that trust God
for new growth and new life. Trusting that God is with us and for us “That
God’s grace is sufficient for us”,
I love the image
behind me because it is a sign of hope of new life coming out of the old. “That
God’s grace is sufficient for us.” I started today by saying that there are
many church ruins, and I want to finish with a story that is very much like
this image behind me. In Europe there has been a growth of new monastic
movements, people rediscovering old ways of living together, sharing a common
rhythm of prayer, community, service and evangelism. One such movement is the
24/7 prayer movement. They started to form urban communities called boiler rooms
a group of people in a particular place that form a Christ-centred community that
practices a daily rhythm of prayer, study and celebration whilst caring
actively for the poor and the lost. You can read about them on line or in the
book ‘punk monk’. The first boiler room they opened was in an old pub, but as
they researched the background of the place they found it was in the grounds of
the old cathedral and monastery in that city. When they opened one in London,
they were given a basement of a building owned by an insurance company, and it
was only after they had been running for a while that someone noticed a brass
plaque that said that this was the site of John Wesley’s foundry his base in
London where not only did he preach the gospel but set up a community to care
for the poor, and do social justice. Now I now one of these boiler rooms has
closed since I read about them, but I think this gives us encouragement that
like in the oracle of Obadiah, God is able to bring new life and new growth and
his kingdom even in the ruins.
SALVATION WITHOUT FORGIVENESS BY STEVE FINNELL
ReplyDeleteIs it possible to be saved without having your sins forgiven? Was Saul saved by faith alone before his sins were forgiven?
If Saul was saved on the road to Damascus, then he was saved without having his sins forgiven.
Saul believed in Jesus on the road Damascus, but his sins were forgiven three days later in Damascus
Act 9:1-19......9 And he was three days without sight, and neither ate nor drank....
Saul sins were forgiven in Damascus, three days later, not on the road to Damascus.
Acts 22:1-16.....10 And I said, 'What shall I do Lord?' And the Lord said to me, 'Get up and go into Damascus, and there you will be told of all that has been appointed for you to do.'.......16 Now why do you delay? Get up and be baptized, and wash away your sins,calling on His name!
Saul was not saved by faith only. Saul was saved by believing and being baptized in water.
Jesus did not establish faith only salvation on the road to Damascus. Jesus confirmed what He already had said "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved"... (Mark 16:16)
You cannot be saved unless your sins have been forgiven.
In order to support the doctrine of faith only men have offered many reasons why the Scriptures cannot be trusted.
REASONS.
1. The Bible is not the inerrant word of God, it has many errors and contradictions.
2. You have to be a Greek scholar to understand the Bible. If you understand the original Greek language, then you would know water baptism is not essential for forgiveness of sins.
3. You need to use extra-Biblical writings to understand the plan of salvation.
4. The Bible has been mistranslated, therefore men are saved by faith only and not the way it is presented in the Bible.
If God is not smart enough to give men an accurate translation of His plan for salvation and Christian living, then why would anyone trust in Him for salvation or for anything else.
God has given us His plan of salvation in many translations, in different languages. You do not have to know Greek.You do not have to have a Greek dictionary. You do have to be Greek. If men had to be able to read and understand original Greek to understand the Bible, then all Bibles would be in Greek.
GOD IS INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO GUIDE MEN TO GIVE A TRANSLATION OF THE BIBLE IN THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU READ! JUST READ IT AND BELIEVE IT.
Men are not saved by faith only and there is no verse of Scripture that states men are saved by faith only. Men are saved by faith, but not by faith only.
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Steve, I'm not sure if this is a comment on this post and a critique of my theology. I can't actually make the connection or the point you are trying to make. except possibly blatantly advertising your blog by adding follow my blog... at the end. I'll give you a week to reply and clarify what you are wanting to say... otherwise I'll delete the comment as spam.
ReplyDeleteHi Steve, Just on the off chance that you do want to respond to this post and not just advertise your own blogsite.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you that repentance and baptism are part of our response to God's grace. That forgiveness of sin is essential for salvation... I have thought about my theology and preaching in light of what you have posted. I admit that I tend to focus on what God has done for us... the grace of God shown to us and salvation being about God's activity rather than about our response... So I am aware that might come across as an imbalance in my teaching.
However I am also aware that placing the emphasis on what we do in response to God can make salvation sound more like the work of humanity than the work of God. Am I saved because I asked God to forgive my sin and I was baptised or am I saved because of what Christ has done for me on the cross?
Secondly, while you are talking of Paul's salvation in your blog entry, "My Grace is Sufficient for you" comes from Paul's on going experience of the Christian life. It comes from praying about an issue in his life hoping for it to be solved and being told to have a radical reliance on God... That in his weakness God is made strong...Which is what led me to decide you were simply spamming my blogsite to garnish readers for your on.
Trust me, Howard, Steve is nothing more than a spammer of the religious variety. He will never actually comment on a blog, he'll just leave long winded comments that are mini versions of his latest post. And he will never, ever publish a comment remotely critical of him. He's been doing this for the better part of a decade, and is widely despised among bloggers as nothing more than a self righteous, sanctimonious, hypocritical prat. And a gutless coward, or he'd at least publish critical comments.
ReplyDeleteThanks William You have confirmed what I thought was going on.
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